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Allan

I cannot agree with the argument you have built. Basically what you are trying to say is that people cannot critisise Israel without hating jews, something which is not true. This is something I know from myself,as I cannot agree in everything Israel is doing. However, I do not agree with most of what the Palestinians are doing either(Its wrong to use kids as shields against tanks, etc). Even if most of the cases(something I doubt) are like you suggest, that people hate jews, but take it out on Israel, then that is actually those peoples right to take it out on Israel, because that is what free speech is about. I think that the way the government should hande that is (at least in theory) a good way, namely by having rules against racism, but still freedom of speech.

Leif Knutsen, New York

Allan - you're making two points here, and in both you either haven't read what I wrote or you're willfully misunderstanding me.

1) Just because it is possible to criticize Israeli policy (as indeed most Israelis do, from time to time) without hating Jews, it doesn't follow that *some* of those who criticize Israel don't hate Jews.

2) I am fully in favor of free speech, even if I don't like what is being said. The Nordic bans against racist speech are both unprincipled and ineffective, and what's worse, they give people like Laila Freivalds an alibi against her own reprehensible policies - "I can't possibly be charged with promoting antisemitism - it's illegal in Sweden!"

But just as antisemites have the right to promote their hatred of Jews through criticism against Israel, it is certainly my right to expose their arguments as antisemitic.

The anti-Israeli activists in Europe won't even entertain the idea that antisemitism plays even a tiny role in the movement against Israel, and that worries me - greatly.

Helena Isaksson

First and foremost - a great site, I am glad that I found it with some helpful guidance. I think that it is extremely useful to forward info on Nordic countries´ situation to the English-speaking and English-reading world. It is important to demonstrate that Nordic governments who love preaching to the rest of the world about their "safeguarding of democracy and human rights etc" cannot protect their own tax-paying Jewish citizens from being physically and verbally abused by Arabs or/and Moslems (f ex. during a peaceful demonstration in Stockholm a couple of years ago) or during a soccer match in June this year between teenagers from Maccabee team and a team consisting mainly of Somali immigrants from one of Stockholm less priviledged neighbourhoods. When one of Somali players was later interviewd by the media he said that Jews embody in his eyes middle class with high standard of living, good housing, cars etc and he is envious that he does not enjoy the same standard...Naturally he never mentioned the fact that it is due to Swedish middle class (incl Swedish Jews) that he and his family enjoys free housing (paid by tax-payers money through social services) as well as a lot of other welfare benefits that enable them to enjoy much higher living standard than they could ever dream of in Somalia, in most cases without working a single day.

Helena Isaksson

To the misinformed & illiterate

Great site or not, i think you are being of a prejudice and a racist too and i strongly doubt that you know any MUSLIM or ARAB on a personal level... where what you and the rest of the simple minded people, base their knowledge on what the media has to provide you while you're relaxing your ass on your couch. Not a fulfilling way of achieving your knowledge or am i wrong?!

The MUSLIMS and ARABS have been oppressed by their governments, and i'm sure you know that, and by the MONEY & BLOOD THIRSTY ZIONISTS THAT ARE MANIPULATING THIS WORLD EFFICIENTLY. What you are not aware of, will get you and as i see, has already gotten you.

DO NOT INVOLVE THE MUSLIMS AND ARABS INTO A DISGUSTING PROBLEM THAT GREW IN EUROPE FROM EUROPEANS AND THEIR "GUESTS". YOU CANNOT DENY THIS. INSTEAD OF HAVING THIS REVENGE ON THOSE THAT RUINED YOUR LIVES IN EUROPE, WHAT IS IT THAT'S BEING EFFICIENTLY DONE WITH THE PALESTINIANS?! I BELIEVE IT'S A RACIAL GENOCIDE OR WHAT DO U THINK?

LOOK AT THE FACTS AND NOT WHAT YOU KEEP BEING FED BY THIS ZIONIST MEDIA. HOW MANY PALESTINIANS HAVE BEEN MASSACARED SINCE THIS ILLEGAL OCCUPATION?! WHY IS IT WHEN ISRAEL "DEFENDS" ITSELF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE BEING KILLED ARE MORE THAN ITS TARGET? WHO IS IT THAT'S HIDING NUCLEAR & BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS OF DESTRUCTION? WHO'S THE REAL TERRORIST?!

DID IT OCCUR TO YOU THAT YOU ARE BEING LIED TO? SINCE YOU ARE BEING SPOON FED, YOUR ARE NOT BEING FED WITH THE FACTS. EVERY STORY HAS TWO SIDES TO IT AND YOU ARE NOT HEARING THE OTHER SIDE. YOU CANNOT DENY THIS.

ASK YOURSELF THIS QUESTION: WHAT HAVE THE PALESTINIANS DONE TO YOU BEFORE THIS ILLEGAL OCCUPATION? DON'T THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEFEND THEMSLEVES JUST AS YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEFEND YOURS?!

"WE HAVE A RIGHT TO ARMED RESISTANCE AGAINST FOREIGN OCCUPYING FORCES"

RESOLUTION 194, "THE RIGHT TO RETURN"

DON'T SPEAK IF YOU ARE NOT A VICTIM OR AN ILLITERATE. BEWARE OF YOUR WORDS. LEAVE THE MUSLIMS AND ARABS ALONE AND I ASSURE YOU, THEY WILL NOT INTERFERE WITH OTHERS BECAUSE THEY SIMPLY ARE NOT INTERESTED TO.

Here's what history proved: where ever there's of the Jews, there WILL ALWAYS BE PROBLEMS and peaceful lives will be interrupted.

CAN YOU DISPROVE HISTORY?!?!

MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.
RESISTANCE WILL PREVAIL!

Leif

For some strange reason, this poster links to Neturei Karta, the haredi group that opposes the formation of the State of Israel, on the grounds that it preempts the Messianic era. As loony as the group is, I doubt they'll agree with this posting.

In any event, I'm letting it stand as an illustration of the illiterate, ranting, bigoted point of view that is so common among those who "criticize" Israel.

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